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#101 Post by No‘am » 24 Mar 2010 23:53

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#102 Post by The Rider Of Rohan » 25 Mar 2010 21:10

Quick, go and complete the other ones!
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#103 Post by Skyclad » 26 Mar 2010 00:42

Got God Of War III and Heavy Rain today. Both games are... :shock: Especially god Of War III.


I can't believe the last month or so I'm actually playing more PS3 games than 360 or Wii games.
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#104 Post by No‘am » 26 Mar 2010 06:56

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#105 Post by The Rider Of Rohan » 27 Mar 2010 16:28

Meh. I'm at the end of chapter 12 of FF13, and I'm getting my ass whiped by the smallest of enemies. Guess this is my punishment for skipping the sidequests on disc 2. Thing is.. those side-missions were terrible to begin with.
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#106 Post by The Rider Of Rohan » 28 Mar 2010 13:27

Darn it. I was an HOUR into the final boss-battle, when all the lights went down in my street. After three minutes I had electricity again, but I have to start all over again. Aargh!
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#107 Post by Gandalf de Grijze » 28 Mar 2010 14:58

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#108 Post by Saurius » 28 Mar 2010 21:13

The Rider Of Rohan wrote:Guess this is my punishment for skipping the sidequests on disc 2.
DISC 2?! wtf you talking about!!!! .... oh wait, nvm guess that's what you get with a 360 :lol: :wink:
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#109 Post by The Rider Of Rohan » 29 Mar 2010 21:04

Yeah, I do.. no PS3 yet.
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#110 Post by Saurius » 30 Mar 2010 03:14

Finished 13 a couple of hours ago. thought the final boss was not that hard. I had more trouble with some enemies before that dude. I was surprised how easy it was, had expected more.

still the ending, not sure what to think of it... maybe will replay the ending tomorrow or later this week. good story though
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#111 Post by The Rider Of Rohan » 30 Mar 2010 18:08

How much of your christalarium did you actually expand before you beat the final boss? By now I have all my major classes maxed out and one extra class at level 1, and I'm wondering if i am able to beat the death clock this way.
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#112 Post by Saurius » 31 Mar 2010 12:22

I was at stage 9 with the crystarium not maxed out at all just shitload of health (around 7/8k), and some classes level 1. the last phase was pretty easy if you ask me. the right tactics is what is needed. I'll show you what I did very tiny for less spoilerage and in dutch :wink:

party: Lightning, Fang, Hope. Ik begon met decimation dus: Ravanger, Commando, Synergist. Bleek niet zo goed te zijn omdat Hope nogal snel kapot gaat. Dus ging ik met: Ravanger, Saboteur, Synergist. Hope blijft haste op je aarsch casten, terwijl Fang alle magic resistance weg donderd en ondertussen deprotect, cast. Daarna paradigm shift naar: Ravager, Commando, Medic. Door blijven beuken totdat Orphan in Stagger is en toen bleef ik daar op hangen, had beter nog een Relentless Assault kunnen gebruiken. zodat je in stagger Orphan echt al bijna dood hebt. Dan gaat Orphan lame doen had ik wat problemen em in stagger te krijgen, maar gewoon hetzelfde idee. Saboteur + Synergist voor Fang en Hope, drna Hope als healslet aanstellen en door beuken op dat beest en dan win je.

Bij de Orphan ervoor, dat halve zwaard beest deed ik ongeveer hetzelfde. Alleen had ik ook nog als paradigm Commando, Sentinel, Ravenger. Fang healt zichzelf als ze Sentinel is. Ook had ik dan nog een paradigm met Medic, Sentinel, Medic om ff snel te healen. Ging het ineens heel snel.


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#113 Post by The Rider Of Rohan » 31 Mar 2010 20:36

Hmmm, seems like your christalarium expands a lot faster than mine. Mine has a cap at level four, and it takes about 4 fights (at 4000 cp each) to gain an extra skill. Gotta do some googling for that.
Bedankt voor de tip. Grootste verschil zoals ik dit zie is dat je twee offensieve karakters gebruikt, want in mijn geval had ik Vanille, Fang en Hope nodig om genoeg overeind te blijven om de Merciless Judgement te overleven. Verder lukt de stagger bereiken wel vrij gemakkelijk, maar is het probleem om de damage snel genoeg uit te delen als de death clock begint te tellen (met nog een tiende helath over). Volgens mij heb ik de saboteur tijdens deze fase over het hoofd gezien - wellicht zit daar de truuk in.
I do see the final battle as a huge design-flaw. For all of the game you're able to beat battles based on perseverance and tacticks, but once you've reachwed the end you suddenly have to start grinding - something you haven't been doing all game long. It's a flaw that exists in most FF-games, and one of the things I would've liked to see chopped much more than the towns or airship. It's just such a cheap way of adding five hours to the lifespan of the game by having a final boss who cheats.

Oh well. I guess it still beats the old days when dungeons lasted for two hours yet didn't have savepoints.
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#114 Post by Saurius » 31 Mar 2010 23:46

Ferdi i never grinded any levels.... I just went on the Gran Pulse Steppe, did mission 1 - 17 and then figured I had to continue with the story line to get more missions. What else I did was just do the normal crystariums (cp per dot was 10k at stage 9.)

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Ja dat is het eerste gedeelte, dat is zo half paars half goud (barthendelus & orphan ding) die was inderdaad wat moeilijker. maar met saboteur Fang een tijdje te gebruiken ging het ineens lomp hard. Na 1 stagger mode ging Orphan ineens naar de 2 bollen (barthendelus die je poisent en orphan die zichzelf healt). Toen ging ik gewoon beuken met Commando, Sentinel, Ravenger en de Decimation (Ravenger, Sentinel en Medic) alle volgordes zijn Light, Fang, Hope btw. maar ik had eerst idd ook de saboteur over het hoofd gezien en dacht, die ga ik maar eens proberen.
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#115 Post by The Rider Of Rohan » 01 Apr 2010 21:27

I just completed FF13 too. Besides Saurius' tips, three days worth of leveling on Gran Pulse did the trick: after returning with a party consisting of demigods the final boss went down without as much as scratching my health-meter.

All in all I have very mixed feelings about FF13. During the first 10 hours it seems to be great, but after that it fails to live up to the promise made by those early impressions. The visuals and presentation are undeniably awesome and the characterisation is great during the first half of the game. On the other side, the storytelling is pretty weak, there's hardly any strategy involved in most parts of the game, and the gameplay outside of the battles is dull and uninspired.

I still enjoyed it for the most part as the game is great at giving you something in small doses, meaning that you can play the game just as easily for half an hour as you can play it for an entire day. I would still recommend it for people interested in getting to know the rpg-genre, but all in all I feel like FF13 is what it is: flawed gameplay in a beautiful presentation.
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#116 Post by Mackasfour » 02 Apr 2010 03:50

There are no games to currently look forward to... or is it just me? (That are set in stone)


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#117 Post by Saurius » 02 Apr 2010 11:56

God of War III? I finished 13 and disagree with Ferdi. The story was pretty darn good up until the end. I have to replay the ending, but imho the story in Kingdom Hearts 358/2 Days > FF 13. Though that story only really gets interesting at the end of the game. Square can do better indeed, but still a pretty good storyline
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#118 Post by Mackasfour » 02 Apr 2010 13:38

I do not own a PS3 so GoWIII is out of the question
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#119 Post by The Rider Of Rohan » 02 Apr 2010 18:55

Mackasfour wrote:There are no games to currently look forward to... or is it just me? (That are set in stone)


Currently replaying every game I own.
Well, there are tons of great games coming out in the next 8 months. Gamespot recently posted a round-up of them:

http://www.gamespot.com/special_feature ... ks;title;5

Ones I am looking too most:

Red Dead Redemption
Mafia 2
Fable 3 (although it will likely suck)
Star Wars - Force Unleashed 2
New Zelda
Tales Of Graces
The FF13 PSP-spinoff
Tales Of Phantasia remake
Super Street Fighter 4

With those in mind, and also the amazing games that game out in Q1 of this year, I'm having enough gaming to keep me occupied until 2011.
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#120 Post by No‘am » 02 Apr 2010 23:50

Dante's Inferno seems pretty nice, did anyone play it?
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#121 Post by Mackasfour » 03 Apr 2010 04:15

The Rider Of Rohan wrote:
Mackasfour wrote:There are no games to currently look forward to... or is it just me? (That are set in stone)


Currently replaying every game I own.
Well, there are tons of great games coming out in the next 8 months. Gamespot recently posted a round-up of them:

http://www.gamespot.com/special_feature ... ks;title;5

Ones I am looking too most:

Red Dead Redemption
Mafia 2
Fable 3 (although it will likely suck)
Star Wars - Force Unleashed 2
New Zelda
Tales Of Graces
The FF13 PSP-spinoff
Tales Of Phantasia remake
Super Street Fighter 4

With those in mind, and also the amazing games that game out in Q1 of this year, I'm having enough gaming to keep me occupied until 2011.
After last years great year of gaming I believe this year will be a bit settled. Next year will be great though it would seem.

Oh yeah and an AC2 expansion comes out this year :P
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#122 Post by The Rider Of Rohan » 03 Apr 2010 09:51

Well, imo 2010 is infinetely bette than 2009 and 2008.

And what's coming out in 2011 that makes it more special?
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#123 Post by Mackasfour » 03 Apr 2010 10:41

2008 wasn't a good year, but last year was great. This year has started off great and I hope it keeps that standard going. As for 2011, idk, it could turn out terrible... I just have a feeling it should be a good year for gaming
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#124 Post by The Rider Of Rohan » 03 Apr 2010 17:09

I strarted playing Dragon Age Origins Awakening this weekend. It's a 20 hour expansion to the original, and it's quite good. You get to import your charachter and continue your life in a different part of Ferelden. Thought you completed the Darkspawn by destroying the Archdemon? Think again: they're back as whole squadrons of cannonfodder. There's a ton of new sidemissions too, so this is enough to keep one occupied for a weekend or so. The game is essentially more of the same, which is great if you loved the original.

Plus, after FF13, I actually needed something with a good story to tell.
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#125 Post by Led Guardian » 03 Apr 2010 21:04

The Rider Of Rohan wrote:I strarted playing Dragon Age Origins Awakening this weekend. It's a 20 hour expansion to the original, and it's quite good. You get to import your charachter and continue your life in a different part of Ferelden. Thought you completed the Darkspawn by destroying the Archdemon? Think again: they're back as whole squadrons of cannonfodder. There's a ton of new sidemissions too, so this is enough to keep one occupied for a weekend or so. The game is essentially more of the same, which is great if you loved the original.

Plus, after FF13, I actually needed something with a good story to tell.
I've started Awakening, and while it's fun, I find the lack of continuity disturbing. I've already encountered some major choices that were completely disregarded.
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#126 Post by Saurius » 04 Apr 2010 13:34

The FF13 PSP-spinoff
There isn't going to be a FF13 PSP-spinoff Ferdi. 13 Versus will be PS3 only game. They call it 13 because it is created with the new engine.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Final_Fantasy_Versus_XIII
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#127 Post by The Rider Of Rohan » 04 Apr 2010 16:29

There'll be two spinoffs: versus, and aa psp-game which is likely to be similar to Crisis Core (which was awesome).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fabula_Nov ... ntasy_XIII
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#128 Post by Saurius » 05 Apr 2010 02:51

a spin off has a direct link to the original media, since versus and antigo are not directly linked in through the story they aren't spin offs. i first thought antigo was cancelled (first announcements said it would be for mobile phones but square has stopped development on the mobile department) but i disagree it are spin offs
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#129 Post by West Virginia Mule » 05 Apr 2010 07:04

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#130 Post by The Rider Of Rohan » 05 Apr 2010 09:03

Saurius wrote:a spin off has a direct link to the original media, since versus and antigo are not directly linked in through the story they aren't spin offs.
You are absolutely right saying that a spinoff has a direct link, but then go astray by saying that the storyline has to be linked in order for it to be defined as a spinoff. A spin-off is a form of media that is derived from another one in one way or another. Though these two games may have their own characters and storylines, they still take place in the same universe and share the same design-choices.
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#131 Post by The Rider Of Rohan » 07 May 2010 19:06

Today I spent some time with Alan Wake and what a great time it was. I have always said that videogames potentially have the same storytelling-capabilities as movies and books, being able to move the viewer on a personal level. This line of thought came from my experiences playing tons of rpg's, but it was up to this survival-shooter to finally prove my point.

Decided into several episodes, each with its own pacing which start of slow and builds to a climax, the game tells the story of plagued writer Alan Wake in an amazing way. I won't ruin anything by going into the details right now as being sucked into the story is the game's biggest appeal, but it has all the qualities of Stephen King's 'Secret Window, Secret Garden' mixed with some of Hitchcock's finest work.

I love how the game sets an atmosphere through it's visuals, music and (great) voice-acting. It's a credit to the game's quality that although I detest the survival-horror-genre, I have been hooked so far. Part of the cause for this is that the game doesn't need blood or gore to achieve its effect: it manages to scare you to death in a more elegant and subtle way.

The underlying gameplay isn't even that strong (it's basically run, duck, shoot) but as an experience it is great. Alan is a great hero because he is quite like you and I: his fingers tremble slightly when he changes bullets, he runs out of breath when running ten metres and has an unworldly perspective on the events that unfold around him. The supporting cast is quite memorable too, and it is probably the first time ever in a videogame that I felt a genuine connection to my in-game wife.

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#132 Post by Skyclad » 07 May 2010 21:28

I didn't think Alan Wake was ot yet?


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#133 Post by The Rider Of Rohan » 07 May 2010 22:24

I played a lot of Borderlands too a couple of months ago.. Fun game.

And no, Alan Wake isn't out yet. I have a connection which allows me to play games before the releasedate. 8)
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#134 Post by Saurius » 08 May 2010 22:41

finished God of War II today... good game, should get out and buy III soon. Still have a lot of games with enough gameplay in them though. FF XIII, AC II, Brutal Legend (still have to finish this one), Fifa 10 and some others.
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#135 Post by The Rider Of Rohan » 09 May 2010 00:01

I just completed Alan Wake and I have to say.... wow, what an amazing experience. The game gripped me for the full twelve hours and didn't have a single moment where it got less interesting. Towards the end I had to play it with the lights turned on and the sound turned off because the game was trying it's best to scare the bejeesus out of me.

This is a serious contender for the game of pf the year for me. Not in terms of longevity (12 hours is quite short) but for the amazing experience the game offers during those hours.
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#136 Post by Mackasfour » 09 May 2010 02:59

Saurius wrote:finished God of War II today... good game, should get out and buy III soon. Still have a lot of games with enough gameplay in them though. FF XIII, AC II, Brutal Legend (still have to finish this one), Fifa 10 and some others.
I pulled out the old PS2 to play GoW 1 :lol: I may go onto GoW 2, such a shame it's only with sony :(
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#137 Post by Frozen within » 09 May 2010 11:57

Alan Wake is removed from my to-buy-list because of the really short duration of the game, so I guess it's waiting for Crackdown 2 and Halo Reach. I quit playing (shooters) online because of the ever increasing phenomenon called lag. It's just no fun playing against (mostly) Americans with a massive delay, while the people not suffering it seem to think it has everything to do with skill.
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#138 Post by Saurius » 09 May 2010 16:39

mackafour, I played it on PS3... HD remastered fucking awesome!!! 8)
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#139 Post by The Rider Of Rohan » 09 May 2010 17:41

Frozen within wrote:Alan Wake is removed from my to-buy-list because of the really short duration of the game
That's understandable. That said, I still urge you to play the game sooner or later, even if it is second-hand, a loaner or a rental. It's so good you still want to play it.

Or you buy it on Saturday, complete it, and return it on Monday (if your local gamestore has a policy which allows that).
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#140 Post by Skyclad » 09 May 2010 20:13

12 hours isn't that short for this day and age. Especially if a game is good. I rmeember buying ICO for the PS2 for full price, beating it in hours and the experience was so awesome I didn't feel ripped off one bit.
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#141 Post by The Rider Of Rohan » 09 May 2010 21:17

Well, in some respects it is quite long when you think of it. Back when games started they didn't have a 'length'. You started in your spaceship blasting away the aliens/gunships/robots etc and kept playing on the same static background until you ran out of lives.

The whole thing with gaming as we know it took off on the NES, but honestly, games were pretty damn short back then. Think of all the games of yore: Mega Man, Mario, Castlevania, Bionic Commando, Kid Icarus - all of them could be completed in half an hour if you were good at them. So in comparison, 12 hours is quite long.

I'm playing the devil's advocate right now of course, because it still feels like a poor value for money. But it's a reflection of how the industry has changed. I daresay that games nowadays a) are designed to be finished by the player without challenging them too much and b) games were better in those days from a gameplay point of view.

And that's why 12 hours feels short. You may get a lot of bang for your buck, but it is still a hell of a lot of bucks when the appeal of the game wears off after you have seen the credits.
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#142 Post by No‘am » 09 May 2010 21:55

It probably mostly depends on the replay value (on your own, with others).
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#143 Post by The Rider Of Rohan » 10 May 2010 20:42

Well, I say replay value is quite poor these days. With the advance of technology, games have shifted from pixel-perfect works of torture to n00b-friendly graphical bonanza's with the emphasis on experience rather than gameplay. In a lot of ways games are worse than they were in the 8 or 16-bit era. Just take an average 3D-shooter, imagine the same core gameplay but the looks and sounds of Wolfenstein 3D and you might get my point.

Still, I am not complaining, as I enjoy gaming more these days than I did back then. I guess this appreciation comes from the many hours spent saving the earth from the evil pixels on my Atari 2600 two decades ago.
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#144 Post by Mackasfour » 11 May 2010 10:26

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It would be, but I don't see GoW justifying the purchase of a PS3, I prefer PC first, then for console Xbox for the online community. I will probs give it a try some time.. I hope anyways
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#145 Post by Cerbere » 15 May 2010 04:56

Anyone else interested in Fallout New Vegas?

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#146 Post by West Virginia Mule » 15 May 2010 07:04

Cerbere wrote:Anyone else interested in Fallout New Vegas?
Probably the millions upon millions upon millions upon millions upon millions upon millions that bought Fallout 3.
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#147 Post by Cerbere » 18 May 2010 02:42

Yeah, unfortunately

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#148 Post by Palantyre » 18 May 2010 05:13

I'm quite interested in it. Fallout 3 was a fun game and worthy of bearing the name "Fallout", but it had some major drawbacks that kept it from being really excellent.

Nev Vegas, however, is being developed by Obsidian, and this kinda raises my expectations for it. Let's say I'm carefully optimistic.
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#149 Post by Mackasfour » 18 May 2010 10:38

I am so awesome I pulled out Diablo 2 LoD :D
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#150 Post by Sentinel » 18 May 2010 15:19

I can beat that. Recently bought a new PC and the first game I played was Fallout 1. ^^
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