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Wtf happened to this forum anyway.

#1 Post by Kankra » 18 Mar 2009 11:20

Barely any users on, old topics on page 1 of the subforums... what happend? Nuclear holocaust, and nobody told me? It was a lot busier a few years ago...

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#2 Post by End Of An Era » 18 Mar 2009 11:30

i gues some (or most) people developed something i've heard mention before around here.. they call it life, don't know what the hell that's supposed to mean though..

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#3 Post by Waylander » 18 Mar 2009 11:33

*sigh* Yes I remember the old days, this place was buzzing. Kinda sad that I've just recently started finding the time to check it out regularly again no one seems to be around :?

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#4 Post by ThePKH » 18 Mar 2009 11:54

I'm still around. :)
But I'm a more boring person nowadays.
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#5 Post by End Of An Era » 18 Mar 2009 11:58

yeah.. it's quiet nowadays.. the mods used to prune about twice a year and now once every two years suffices.. :?

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#6 Post by Kankra » 18 Mar 2009 13:46

ThePKH wrote:I'm still around. :)
But I'm a more boring person nowadays.
More boring? How is that even possible?

edit. and I am playing everquest 2. Wow = sux.

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#7 Post by Waylander » 18 Mar 2009 15:23

ThePKH wrote:I'm still around. :)
But I'm a more boring person nowadays.
Me too, remember both of us being wasted as and running amok in #b-g?

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#8 Post by End Of An Era » 18 Mar 2009 15:25

i don't have enough money to get a decent computer so i'm stuck on FF VII... and spam

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#9 Post by Skyclad » 18 Mar 2009 16:26

All empires fall.
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#10 Post by Gandalf de Grijze » 18 Mar 2009 16:55

the fork is not with us anymore master yoghurt
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#11 Post by verbranden » 18 Mar 2009 18:44

Knightrider of Doom wrote:World of Warcraft is going for world domination, THAT happened...
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#12 Post by Joost » 18 Mar 2009 18:48

Skyclad wrote:All empires fall.
np: Primordial - Empire Falls

And every empire will fall
Every monument crumble


This beats World of Warcraft easily.
You charge each other for the time and breath it takes to say 'good morning',
But the truth is slowly dawning -- things are getting out of hand,
We all pursue our shattered dreams along the roads to our own ruin --
Watch our empires sink and wash away like castles made of sand.
And so cast off the lies that are your lives and find the truth within.
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#13 Post by Orodaran » 18 Mar 2009 20:35

Also, where has gone that dude from Italy that was continously posting every time of the day?
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#14 Post by Gandalf de Grijze » 18 Mar 2009 21:03

you mean taht hugeass spammer in denial?
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#15 Post by Kankra » 18 Mar 2009 22:07

Skyclad wrote:All empires fall.
What about the empire of matter.

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#16 Post by Skyclad » 18 Mar 2009 22:17

Kankra wrote:
Skyclad wrote:All empires fall.
What about the empire of matter.
Empires are built by humans, sometimes insects and fish and shit. Matter has just been, and it is and has been in many more places than Earth.
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#17 Post by Orodaran » 18 Mar 2009 22:37

"Every empire was built by the slave
Built through the ages, destroyed in a day"


I dare anyone to know the quote without googling it.
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#18 Post by Gandalf de Grijze » 18 Mar 2009 22:39

first time i hear it anyway
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#19 Post by End Of An Era » 18 Mar 2009 22:45

just playing the odds: churchill? :P

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Re: Wtf happened to this forum anyway.

#20 Post by The Rider Of Rohan » 18 Mar 2009 23:41

Kankra wrote:Barely any users on, old topics on page 1 of the subforums... what happend? Nuclear holocaust, and nobody told me? It was a lot busier a few years ago...
That said, do take into account that 60% of those posts were done just by Orodoran.

My guess is that somewhere in the meantime, Oro discovered that touching one's penis makes it feel funny, and suddenly decided it a much better pasttime.
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#21 Post by Curufin » 19 Mar 2009 01:49

One can still spam with one hand, though...
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#22 Post by Gandalf de Grijze » 19 Mar 2009 01:58

über multi tasking: spamming and sperming at teh same tiem
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#23 Post by End Of An Era » 19 Mar 2009 08:02

spam and sperm are quite similar. of millions, only one of them is not totally useless.

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#24 Post by Kankra » 19 Mar 2009 08:25

And this is of course this post.

I'll throw in a lolcat too to celebrate.

http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpre ... ussion.jpg

Why the fuck are images disabled......... zeesh.

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#25 Post by Gandalf de Grijze » 19 Mar 2009 17:57

because as you know they've always been
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#26 Post by ThePKH » 19 Mar 2009 19:21

Kankra wrote:More boring? How is that even possible?

edit. and I am playing everquest 2. Wow = sux.
*Yawn* It is possible. I'm drinking milk btw.
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#27 Post by t.a.j. » 19 Mar 2009 19:45

This is strictly a no-pic-board. We are text puritans. If we could, we would even do without php and html.
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#28 Post by End Of An Era » 19 Mar 2009 20:28

ASCII-pr0n is the best! 8)

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#29 Post by ThePKH » 19 Mar 2009 21:56

What the Simpsons character is that?
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#30 Post by End Of An Era » 19 Mar 2009 23:02

no it isn't! it's Carl!

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#31 Post by Kankra » 20 Mar 2009 13:42

ThePKH wrote:
Kankra wrote:More boring? How is that even possible?

edit. and I am playing everquest 2. Wow = sux.
*Yawn* It is possible. I'm drinking milk btw.
I just fell asleep there.

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#32 Post by End Of An Era » 20 Mar 2009 14:48

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End Of An Era wrote:no it isn't! it's Carl!
there is no Carl in Simpsons! ><
really?

but you put to my attention i made a mistake, i ment lenny

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#33 Post by End Of An Era » 20 Mar 2009 15:28

yeah now i see!! nice work, but i prefer other ASCII things.. pr0n!! :P at work now, so can't browse for them :P

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#34 Post by Palantyre » 27 Mar 2009 17:36

What are these "forums" thou speakst of?
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#35 Post by corrupted old gnom » 27 Mar 2009 20:50

you're right, martin
those boobs were the most exciting thing on this forum, in recent years
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#36 Post by Kankra » 30 Mar 2009 08:20

Printing them out at work now!

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#37 Post by Sarah » 31 Mar 2009 17:01

Boo
Dreamland turned to realland and we faced a new frontier
We lost the world
Sometimes we hold it but it's slipping away
When we add reality it doesn't taste like our dream

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#38 Post by Nocturnal Creature » 31 Mar 2009 22:50

Kankra wrote: edit. and I am playing everquest 2. Wow = sux.
Nothing better than playing an imaginery character in an imaginery world while gathering imaginery money to buy imaginery items.
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#39 Post by Gandalf de Grijze » 31 Mar 2009 23:23

sarah: it was booBS not boo
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#40 Post by Medea » 01 Apr 2009 10:01

So I haven't missed a lot since last time
(october I think)

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#41 Post by t.a.j. » 01 Apr 2009 10:17

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Kankra wrote: edit. and I am playing everquest 2. Wow = sux.
Nothing better than playing an imaginery character in an imaginery world while gathering imaginery money to buy imaginery items.
None of that is imaginary. It is virtual, which something very different. With an imaginary sword, you cannot do anything directly, not even slay and imaginary dragon. It's inert for all purposes except for imagining it and it is then the imagining and not the sword that allows you e.g. to draw a beautiful image of a sword.
With a virtual sword though, you can slay a virtual dragon, sell it for virtual money (which in some very important is not even virtual, but more like a different currency that is limited to use in certain circumstance (like you can only shop with Yen in Japan) but can be traded for other currencies, even dollars) and so on. All of which change stuff in the external world because the virtual sword exists outside of you, it is part of the external world, which an imaginary sword is not.
And furthermore, don't be deceived by the words used: the virtual sword is not a sword, nor is the virtual dragon a dragon, we are just in the habit of using words we already have to stuff that reminds us of the things we mean by them.
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#42 Post by Joost » 01 Apr 2009 11:34

t.a.j. wrote:And furthermore, don't be deceived by the words used: the virtual sword is not a sword,
Are you sure about this? The virtual sword to me seems to have all of the properties that we require 'swords' to have. One property that it doesn't have, that real swords do have, is the property of physical existence. That, however, seems to be more a property of being 'real', rather than a property of being a 'sword'. Because the virtual sword is a virtual sword that exists in a virtual world only, you can only do sword-things with it, such as striking, in this virtual world.
nor is the virtual dragon a dragon, we are just in the habit of using words we already have to stuff that reminds us of the things we mean by them.
I think it's more than that. It's not simply "reminding us". It's not like a bunch of stars we see in the sky together, of which the shape reminds us of a bear, which we call then the "great bear". Virtual swords are actually modelled after swords, and the fact that they have sword-properties is much more than a mere coincidence.
You charge each other for the time and breath it takes to say 'good morning',
But the truth is slowly dawning -- things are getting out of hand,
We all pursue our shattered dreams along the roads to our own ruin --
Watch our empires sink and wash away like castles made of sand.
And so cast off the lies that are your lives and find the truth within.
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#43 Post by t.a.j. » 01 Apr 2009 11:52

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t.a.j. wrote:And furthermore, don't be deceived by the words used: the virtual sword is not a sword,
Are you sure about this? The virtual sword to me seems to have all of the properties that we require 'swords' to have. One property that it doesn't have, that real swords do have, is the property of physical existence. That, however, seems to be more a property of being 'real', rather than a property of being a 'sword'. Because the virtual sword is a virtual sword that exists in a virtual world only, you can only do sword-things with it, such as striking, in this virtual world.
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It does not cut, for there is nothing to cut, it has not weight, it has not been forged, it cannot be used to kill. All properties that I would require of a sword. A virtual sword does not share many of the properties of a real sword. In the strictest sense it shares only appearance and name with a real sword.
What it does have instead are properties defined within the boundaries of the game it is part of and the program that exemplifies that game.
Take a sword from an RPG. It would have properties within the context of the game it is a part of such as "does 4-17 damage per hit", "can only be used by Knights of the Spoken Knee" and properties within the program that exemplifies that game, such as containing certain lines of code and being graphically represented by this or that bitmap or 3D model.
All properties that a real sword cannot have.
nor is the virtual dragon a dragon, we are just in the habit of using words we already have to stuff that reminds us of the things we mean by them.
I think it's more than that. It's not simply "reminding us". It's not like a bunch of stars we see in the sky together, of which the shape reminds us of a bear, which we call then the "great bear". Virtual swords are actually modelled after swords, and the fact that they have sword-properties is much more than a mere coincidence.
You are right of course, we do not find the virtual, but we make it to remind us of the real, so that we can grasp it in concepts and cognitive routines that we already have. Nobody would play a computer game, if all you ever saw was the logical movements of the program, while inputting the logical commands of your game moves when asked. Yet we should keep in mind when talking about computer games (and to some extend other virtualities), that we use the same words to talk about very different things.
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#44 Post by Kankra » 01 Apr 2009 12:04

Nocturnal Creature wrote:
Kankra wrote: edit. and I am playing everquest 2. Wow = sux.
Nothing better than playing an imaginery character in an imaginery world while gathering imaginery money to buy imaginery items.
Investment bankers deal with virtual money all the time, too. And from a philosophical point of view, anything you do in your life is futile in the end, and this differs not from anybody's actions in a virtual world.

Have fun reading your next book about imaginery characters or listening to music about imaginary people ....?

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Kankra wrote:Investment bankers deal with virtual money all the time, too. And from a philosophical point of view, anything you do in your life is futile in the end, and this differs not from anybody's actions in a virtual world.
With emphasis on 'a philosophical point of view'. It's definitely not like that from all philosophical points of view. :P
You charge each other for the time and breath it takes to say 'good morning',
But the truth is slowly dawning -- things are getting out of hand,
We all pursue our shattered dreams along the roads to our own ruin --
Watch our empires sink and wash away like castles made of sand.
And so cast off the lies that are your lives and find the truth within.
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Also, Balrogs have wings.

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#46 Post by t.a.j. » 01 Apr 2009 12:31

Thank you for pointing that out :D
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#47 Post by Joost » 01 Apr 2009 12:35

t.a.j. wrote:It does not cut, for there is nothing to cut, it has not weight, it has not been forged, it cannot be used to kill. All properties that I would require of a sword. A virtual sword does not share many of the properties of a real sword. In the strictest sense it shares only appearance and name with a real sword.
What it does have instead are properties defined within the boundaries of the game it is part of and the program that exemplifies that game.
Take a sword from an RPG. It would have properties within the context of the game it is a part of such as "does 4-17 damage per hit", "can only be used by Knights of the Spoken Knee" and properties within the program that exemplifies that game, such as containing certain lines of code and being graphically represented by this or that bitmap or 3D model.
All properties that a real sword cannot have.
Good point. But what about e.g. a shop in a virtual world, then? That surely does have the attributes we require a shop to have -- you can spend (virtual) money there to buy (virtual) items, just like in a real shop you can spend (real) money to buy (real) items.

And if a virtual shop would be a shop, but a virtual sword would not be a sword, where should we draw the line? How about swords in stories (which are imaginary, not virtual, but generally are behaved much more like real swords than "does 4-17 damage per hit" types of swords)? Are they swords?
You charge each other for the time and breath it takes to say 'good morning',
But the truth is slowly dawning -- things are getting out of hand,
We all pursue our shattered dreams along the roads to our own ruin --
Watch our empires sink and wash away like castles made of sand.
And so cast off the lies that are your lives and find the truth within.
-- Martin Walkyier

Also, Balrogs have wings.

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#48 Post by t.a.j. » 01 Apr 2009 14:04

Swords in stories are problematic, but I would go so far at least to say that whatever they are, they are not objects at all. Really, ontology of fiction bugs me and I might go and do something about it when I find time.

As for money, you are completely right, virtual money is not virtual in the sense of the virtual sword at all but more like another currency. Money is after defined by its function and unlike a sword, the function of money can be fully enacted in a computer game environment as long as you trade with other people. It's more difficult in single-player games where it seems there is at most a simulation of trade.

So I would draw the line between object and function on one hand and actual function and simulated function on the other.
If something is what it is by it's function and that function can be enacted losslessly in a virtual environment then actual instances of it can be had in a virtual environment, else only virtual resemblers can be had.[/url]
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#49 Post by Nocturnal Creature » 01 Apr 2009 17:48

This is like last week when I was forced to read 50 pages about the ontology of a butterfly.

If it shines, I say it's a sword.

Ehm, carry on.

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Kankra wrote:Investment bankers deal with virtual money all the time, too. And from a philosophical point of view, anything you do in your life is futile in the end, and this differs not from anybody's actions in a virtual world.
With emphasis on 'a philosophical point of view'. It's definitely not like that from all philosophical points of view. :P
And I quess some philosophical view would see the things you do in a virtual world more futile than the things you do in real life. And if your philosophical view disagrees with it, try spending few weeks eating food only in your virtual world. You'll get the idea of what I mean then. And no, "real life" here doesn't include your virtual world actions. To "real life" it just qualifies as sitting on your butt in front of computer with no other relevance whatsoever.
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#50 Post by t.a.j. » 01 Apr 2009 18:10

There is a difference between something being more relevant than something else - e.g. saving a child from a burning building seems more relevant than trying to spread some philosophical understanding on a message board - and saying that something is irrelevant.

But since you seem to be dedicated to ignorance regarding what's what in the world, maybe a more basic argument might appeal to you: People build social circles, make friends and sometimes find lovers playing games like WoW. Other people make money (yes, actual dollars or euros) by being very good at such games (there are e.g. professional Counterstrike players) and finally there's phenomena like the Chinese Gold Farms. All quite extensive consequence for an irrelevant activity.
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