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The Founding Fathers Read The Koran

#1 Post by Baby_Kürsch » 05 Oct 2010 00:33

http://www.disinfo.com/2010/09/the-foun ... the-koran/

I found this to be pretty interesting and thought I should share.
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#2 Post by Baby_Kürsch » 05 Oct 2010 03:40

http://www.disinfo.com/2010/09/preparin ... i-in-1925/\

here is another one about WW III!!
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#3 Post by Mahoora » 06 Oct 2010 15:47

Very nice articles, but do you believe that World wars that cuased millions of casualties and millions of dollars of losses were staged? I mean who could benefit from that? (it's not that noone could benefit but who?) :D
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#4 Post by Lord Borbak » 06 Oct 2010 17:01

I clicked the link, then saw "USAF: Aliens Still Controlling Nuclear Arsenal ". I closed the browser.
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#5 Post by Baby_Kürsch » 06 Oct 2010 19:41

Mahoora wrote:Very nice articles, but do you believe that World wars that cuased millions of casualties and millions of dollars of losses were staged? I mean who could benefit from that? (it's not that noone could benefit but who?) :D
I dont think the article said anything about any of the world wars being staged. My great grand father could tell you, hes dead, that WW II was definitely not staged. He was in the first platoon(?) to liberate the labor camp Dachau. Apparently he never talked about WW II. My other grandfather survived the battle of the Bulge and has a painting of him and his war buddies done by one of Hitlers personal artists thats worth millions apparently. Some museum in California offered him like 5 million dollars for it and he told them FUCK YOU!!

World War 2 was the last real war the world has seen.
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#6 Post by Alija Vila » 06 Oct 2010 21:12

Baby_Kürsch wrote:World War 2 was the last real war the world has seen.
Unfortunately, we suffered in more than a real war here in Bosnia, not long time ago. Wounds are still fresh.
Its casualties aren't big as WWs of course, but for small country such as ours, they are indeed.

Just trying to say - think before stating something like that.

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#7 Post by spamel » 06 Oct 2010 21:15

Baby_Kürsch wrote:
Mahoora wrote:Very nice articles, but do you believe that World wars that cuased millions of casualties and millions of dollars of losses were staged? I mean who could benefit from that? (it's not that noone could benefit but who?) :D
I dont think the article said anything about any of the world wars being staged. My great grand father could tell you, hes dead, that WW II was definitely not staged. He was in the first platoon(?) to liberate the labor camp Dachau. Apparently he never talked about WW II. My other grandfather survived the battle of the Bulge and has a painting of him and his war buddies done by one of Hitlers personal artists thats worth millions apparently. Some museum in California offered him like 5 million dollars for it and he told them FUCK YOU!!

World War 2 was the last real war the world has seen.
What makes a war "real"? The amount of people that died?
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#8 Post by t.a.j. » 07 Oct 2010 15:51

spamel wrote: What makes a war "real"? The amount of people that died?
A real war, were people die instead of just getting mildly irritated skin.
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#9 Post by Baby_Kürsch » 08 Oct 2010 05:27

spamel wrote:
Baby_Kürsch wrote:
Mahoora wrote:Very nice articles, but do you believe that World wars that cuased millions of casualties and millions of dollars of losses were staged? I mean who could benefit from that? (it's not that noone could benefit but who?) :D
I dont think the article said anything about any of the world wars being staged. My great grand father could tell you, hes dead, that WW II was definitely not staged. He was in the first platoon(?) to liberate the labor camp Dachau. Apparently he never talked about WW II. My other grandfather survived the battle of the Bulge and has a painting of him and his war buddies done by one of Hitlers personal artists thats worth millions apparently. Some museum in California offered him like 5 million dollars for it and he told them FUCK YOU!!

World War 2 was the last real war the world has seen.
What makes a war "real"? The amount of people that died?

Korea, Vietnam, Gulf War 1 and Gulf War 2. None of those where real wars. They were all political nonsense by morons in the white house. Political wars is what they call em. In WWII we had real enemies with clear cut lines. Hitler was bad and needed to be stopped and so did Japan.
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#10 Post by Baby_Kürsch » 08 Oct 2010 05:28

Alija Vila wrote:
Baby_Kürsch wrote:World War 2 was the last real war the world has seen.
Unfortunately, we suffered in more than a real war here in Bosnia, not long time ago. Wounds are still fresh.
Its casualties aren't big as WWs of course, but for small country such as ours, they are indeed.

Just trying to say - think before stating something like that.
Im sorry I should have said the United States of America not the world.
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#11 Post by Led Guardian » 08 Oct 2010 05:41

Baby_Kürsch wrote:
spamel wrote:
Baby_Kürsch wrote:
I dont think the article said anything about any of the world wars being staged. My great grand father could tell you, hes dead, that WW II was definitely not staged. He was in the first platoon(?) to liberate the labor camp Dachau. Apparently he never talked about WW II. My other grandfather survived the battle of the Bulge and has a painting of him and his war buddies done by one of Hitlers personal artists thats worth millions apparently. Some museum in California offered him like 5 million dollars for it and he told them FUCK YOU!!

World War 2 was the last real war the world has seen.
What makes a war "real"? The amount of people that died?

Korea, Vietnam, Gulf War 1 and Gulf War 2. None of those where real wars. They were all political nonsense by morons in the white house. Political wars is what they call em. In WWII we had real enemies with clear cut lines. Hitler was bad and needed to be stopped and so did Japan.
And there was nothing political about "real wars?" I don't buy that. There were other motivations as well, but be assured that politics played a part in those wars just as in any other war we've been in. Politics is dragged into everything. I also do not accept that a war needs a clear cut "good guy" and "bad guy." That is a gross oversimplification of the factors involved in war. All there needs to be is an "us" and a "them." Clear cut lines having nothing to do with it. Take Vietnam: Heavily armed combatants fighting each other, tactical ecological destruction, POWs; that's a war. That the combatants engaged in guerrilla tactics instead of more clearly delineated battle lines does not change that. The reasons do not change that.
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#12 Post by Baby_Kürsch » 10 Oct 2010 20:24

You misunderstand the term Political War. Of course all wars have some kinda of political force behind them. What I am referring too is who runs the war and who tells who what to do. In WW2 Generals of the armed forces ran things. With Korea, Vietnam and Gulf Wars 1 & 2 we saw then end of General run wars and entered the era of politicians running wars.

Its also not an oversimplification in any terms. The biggest problem with Vietnam and the Second Gulf War (Operation Iraqi Freedom) is you dont know who the enemy is. You have no idea if the person you are talking to, be it man women or child, was a north Vietnamese supporter or a terrorist. Thats why cases of PTSD are becoming more apparent in our soldiers. PTSD was HUGE amongst Vietnam vets and is becoming an increasing problem for vets of the Second Gulf War. If these people had a clear cut enemy, like Nazi Germany or Japan, I believe PTSD wouldn't be such a huge issue. But Im not a professional psychiatrist in any means so I could be wrong. But logically it makes sense to me.
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#13 Post by Led Guardian » 10 Oct 2010 21:32

Baby_Kürsch wrote:You misunderstand the term Political War. Of course all wars have some kinda of political force behind them. What I am referring too is who runs the war and who tells who what to do. In WW2 Generals of the armed forces ran things. With Korea, Vietnam and Gulf Wars 1 & 2 we saw then end of General run wars and entered the era of politicians running wars.

Its also not an oversimplification in any terms. The biggest problem with Vietnam and the Second Gulf War (Operation Iraqi Freedom) is you dont know who the enemy is. You have no idea if the person you are talking to, be it man women or child, was a north Vietnamese supporter or a terrorist. Thats why cases of PTSD are becoming more apparent in our soldiers. PTSD was HUGE amongst Vietnam vets and is becoming an increasing problem for vets of the Second Gulf War. If these people had a clear cut enemy, like Nazi Germany or Japan, I believe PTSD wouldn't be such a huge issue. But Im not a professional psychiatrist in any means so I could be wrong. But logically it makes sense to me.
Okay, I see what you're saying about the definition of political war, but I still don't agree that the lack of a clear cut enemy makes such conflicts NOT a war. It just make sit a more difficult, harder to manage war.
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#14 Post by Hansi Smurf » 06 Nov 2010 20:18

Gee-whiz, I really wish that all Wars were undeclared, and fully perpetrated, by door-to-door knife-slayers, with both Cromwell's God, and Binet-Simon IQ Awareness, on their side!

I figure that the two "people" surfing next to me are both incapable of ORDER, without being instructed, and re-instructed, again and again! Two very real causes of All Of The Lines At All of Our Stores - certainly! (Hell - even Interim Manitoba Premier Sellinger, cannot self prescribe his own good; he being a congenital bully-idiot!)

You wouldn't believe just how many semi-literate and school-ungraduatable bodies there are here in Core Area Winnipeg! And all of them project their very own brand of very feeble anger and very feeble emotional violence towards any large, clean, and healthy white person, all day long!

Oh well! I'm very certain that soon both the Candian Senate and the Candian Parliament, will be, in both MY hands, and, my "Blood Type A" White Friends hands, sooner than later!

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#15 Post by Daijin » 17 Nov 2010 18:04

Baby_Kürsch wrote:You misunderstand the term Political War. Of course all wars have some kinda of political force behind them. What I am referring too is who runs the war and who tells who what to do. In WW2 Generals of the armed forces ran things. With Korea, Vietnam and Gulf Wars 1 & 2 we saw then end of General run wars and entered the era of politicians running wars.
So, you say you prefer the military deciding about war rather than the politicians you elected? That's interesting.
In WWI generals pretty much ran things. I somehow fail to see what makes this better than "political wars".
Thats why cases of PTSD are becoming more apparent in our soldiers. PTSD was HUGE amongst Vietnam vets and is becoming an increasing problem for vets of the Second Gulf War. If these people had a clear cut enemy, like Nazi Germany or Japan, I believe PTSD wouldn't be such a huge issue. But Im not a professional psychiatrist in any means so I could be wrong.
And indeed you are. The reason why there was no PTSD after WWII is because a diagnosis for something like PTSD didn't exist. But that doesn't change the fact that there was a whole generation of traumatised war veterans.
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