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Re: Netherlands planning to make downloading illegal

#51 Post by Joost » 19 Nov 2009 18:38

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Joost wrote:Of course, this is a bit different when you buy from the band directly. Some bands self-release their albums without any record company being involved at all, and I'm sure these bands do get the lion's share of the money you pay for the albums, if you buy it from them directly.
That's not the case of most of them, I guess...?
Actually, most bands probably do it like this. Most bands are, after all, unsigned.

Of course, you are mostly seeing the top of the iceberg -- the few and far between bands that do have a record deal, and indeed, those bands generally do depend on 'traditional' distribution of their albums.
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#52 Post by The Rider Of Rohan » 19 Nov 2009 21:28

You write that most big bands still depend on recordcompanies, but I beg to differ. Actually I think bands depend more on piratebay and the like, at least for where t-shirts and concerttickets are concerned.
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Netherlands planning to make downloading illegal

#53 Post by Hansi Smurf » 19 Nov 2009 23:49

Money and the economy are some sort of "moral competancy exam" to promote the richness of the fittest. Technically, it's not that hard to earn money anywhere, and if you can get into subsidized housing and lame-duck disability-welfare, you are as technically set for life and as idle as any royalty-cheque casher!

Still, after seeing the inside of a Canadian General Motors plant on TV the other day, I can safely say that workers, schoolers and punishers, like Blind Guardian and George Lucas, are guilty of lame-ducking the rest of us with an "obsolete via post-industrialization" way of life! Remember: All Drivers, workmen and civil servants would have been replaced by machines, but their "right to a traditonal way of life" over-rode what most of us here would consider much more pleasurable, namely, Total Slack! Too, post-industrial leisure class hedonism requires the legality and availability of steroids, HGH, Marijuana, psilocybin, mescaline, LSD, and the values of Catholicism too! (no divorce, no birth control, as many babies as stars in the sky), but it seems to me that the bright faces of the elect are the faces of brainless psychopaths whom will admit to me under oath, that they themselves do not worship God (God = you, me, themselves, in total equality) in any legitimate sense! The Democratic Leader of Germany has not reached the Age of Consent and seemingly never will! Consent! Get it Obama? You have not yet practiced the elementary philosophy of self-rule and total consent! Having not reached the Age of Consent, you are not lawfully the President of the United States! Teachers, clergy, citizenship, the right to vote or marry, it seems none but a few (1%?) can legally do these things regardless of their birth-certificated age!

Representation in gross matters and traditonal town economy by population, stature and metabolism, makes more sense to me than chasing tail with money. I'd rather be bred by Our Global Church and the racist, statured, penis/vagina comfort level awareness We fathers-in-heaven all agree exists traditonally!

"The Age of Consent!" Self-rule and total self-determination within the context of settled and post-industrialized town/city/country life. Values totally ignored by the Mass, and yet a necessary and moral thing needing to be admitted to supporting if one is elected President of a Democracy or if one is wishing to be seen as the leader of a genius rock-band like Blind Guardian! And remember! A man alone is not an individual! A man and a woman together mating for life under threat of death should they try to part from one another, THAT is the biological individual within a society wishing to morally provide for itself traditional health and cleanliness!

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#54 Post by The Rider Of Rohan » 26 Nov 2009 20:11

This just in. Mininova, our country's biggest torrentsite, stops distributing torrents due to a recent loss in a lawsuit.

Bad day for them. Fortunately there are countless alternatives.
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#55 Post by Bender B. Rodriguez » 27 Nov 2009 00:52

The Rider Of Rohan wrote:You write that most big bands still depend on recordcompanies, but I beg to differ. Actually I think bands depend more on piratebay and the like, at least for where t-shirts and concerttickets are concerned.
ditto
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#56 Post by Mahoora » 02 Dec 2009 16:30

Isohunt the best of the best 8)
returning to the topic,all of this discussion brought back an ancient question that i was having years ago: the big money question! i'll post that soon in the coffee shop and see the replies
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Netherlands planning to make downloading illegal. Bout time!

#57 Post by Hansi Smurf » 16 Dec 2009 04:08

Steada stealing music and other IQ properties, form bands yourselves and love making money!
Or I'll de-bar yah'all from tha International Society of Bards for a whole 10 seconds,
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#58 Post by Im the Painkiller » 26 Jan 2010 20:31

I think that Artists should get paid for their work. There is a lot of effort that goes into the whole process. Everyone else gets paid to go to work... regardless of their position. So why shouldn't these extremely talented musicians get paid? Not just the musicians either... what about all those other people that work to make an album happy... the people behind the scenes like the Producers and Engineers.

It takes time and dedication to be part of a band and learn an instrument exceptionally.

I know the Record Companies do make a killing off of signed Artists..... but still, the fact is that Artists pour their hearts out to people, and they deserve some respect and compensation for what they do.


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Re: Netherlands planning to make downloading illegal

#59 Post by End Of An Era » 26 Jan 2010 20:41

...and they will get it, when i'm at their show, listening to their performance, buying their T-shirt... ;)

btw, there's waaaaaay more none-talented musicians than talented musicians out there anyway :P
Im the Painkiller wrote:Everyone else gets paid to go to work... regardless of their position.

Really? then what about other fields of art? they make something, and it all depends on what the people think of their product. If not, epic fail, bum artists you are. If they like it, people will buy your art, visit your gallery and want to be your friend. But simply because more people can enjoy and copy the art commonly known as music, it should be illegal?

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#60 Post by The Rider Of Rohan » 26 Jan 2010 21:17

Im the Painkiller wrote:I think that Artists should get paid for their work. There is a lot of effort that goes into the whole process. Everyone else gets paid to go to work... regardless of their position. So why shouldn't these extremely talented musicians get paid? Not just the musicians either... what about all those other people that work to make an album happy... the people behind the scenes like the Producers and Engineers.

It takes time and dedication to be part of a band and learn an instrument exceptionally.

I know the Record Companies do make a killing off of signed Artists..... but still, the fact is that Artists pour their hearts out to people, and they deserve some respect and compensation for what they do.


Your first sentence is completely right, but after that your post looses the touch with reality. In a perfect world artists would record a cd and get paid for it, but such a thing hasn't happenned a lot. Not with our music.
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#61 Post by Saurius » 27 Jan 2010 01:35

Im the Painkiller wrote:Not just the musicians either... what about all those other people that work to make an album happy... the people behind the scenes like the Producers and Engineers.
you dont know a lot about music do you? producers & engineers get paid. if they didnt get paid, the artists wouldnt have studio's to record or even a good mix/master of their album.
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Re: Netherlands planning to make downloading illegal

#62 Post by alleyesonazarath » 27 Jan 2010 04:18

What they really need to do is put laws into effect that will completely end the entertainment business. If they outlawed the recording industry, the amount of illegal recordings circulating would dwindle, until one day there would be no more illegal downloads! :wink:

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#63 Post by Hansi Smurf » 27 Jan 2010 05:35

I wouldn't want to outlaw entertainment, or any human activity for that matter,
but if you are already infinitely wealthy like Disney or Warner Bros. or Pink Floyd
or Ozzy Osbourne or Madonna, ie; if you have 100's of millions or billions of dollars,
give yer shit away, your cash/interest/investment/equity entitlements will keep
piling up forever anyway!

Same goes for front line sports heroes! If you are an already independantly wealthy sports-star and like us all able to live on your cash entitlements, retire, and make the whole world rich, by forcing the league to hire that "useta be a career minor leaguer!"

No one in the First World should have to make $10, 900 a year like I do! I should be an entitled "unlimitedly wealthy person"
but to my mind the entertainers and the elect are hurting me on purpose and forcing me to accept their enfeebling "work for a living" way of life!

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#64 Post by The Rider Of Rohan » 28 Jan 2010 19:03

As much as I am for the downloading of music I don't really see socialism as an argument is the right thing. Before we know it attracts Slaya.
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#65 Post by Belgarion » 29 Jan 2010 18:22

Im the Painkiller wrote:what about all those other people that work to make an album happy...

What is a happy album?
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#66 Post by End Of An Era » 29 Jan 2010 20:29

freedom call?

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#67 Post by Saurius » 29 Jan 2010 21:54

^ aahaahahahahahahahah :lol:
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#68 Post by Joost » 30 Jan 2010 18:18

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Re: Netherlands planning to make downloading illegal

#69 Post by Andreas » 30 Jan 2010 18:38

I hope they won't have the same effect on me. I just bought their new album 8)

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#70 Post by The Rider Of Rohan » 30 Jan 2010 18:41

The new Freedom Call is great... buty not exactly as happy as the ones before. Songs like Darkness and Dark Obsession have a doomy Tiamat-atmosphere that was unheard of on their previous albums.

Good one, though.
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#71 Post by Andreas » 30 Jan 2010 18:46

Ok, I'm looking forward to give it a listen. Thanks for the info :)

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#72 Post by The Rider Of Rohan » 16 Mar 2010 20:46

Necropost.... A Spanish judge made p2p-sites which aren't out to make a profit legal. Seems like a new safe haven has been born.

http://torrentfreak.com/file-sharing-an ... in-100315/
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#73 Post by End Of An Era » 19 Mar 2010 14:14

that's a good thing to hear :)

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#74 Post by Frozen within » 19 Mar 2010 14:18

You know what I fear the most ? You know, the kind of thing that keeps me from my nightly rest and gets me all oozy with sweaty anxiety ? That banning pie is next !
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#75 Post by Hansi Smurf » 19 Apr 2010 21:39

I've purchased over a hundred bucks of Iron Maiden I-tunes at my old family home and burned 'em for my own home(4th complete set of the Maiden purchased too!) and I feel ripped off by the sound quality! I swear that "Sign of the Cross" is missing layer upon layer of sound reproduction, and too it is true that far too many songs have far to many blips, zips and skips, so much so that it really does force me to admit:

"Buyer Beware! Downloading sucks gas and burns money, just like all them street vermin selling me so-called marijuana, when it is really just bunk hot air!"

PS. Them damn CD's wuz at the record store for less money too: gleeearrrrrgh! :x

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